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Atlantis
Atlantis (àt-làn´tîs),
in Greek mythology, large island in the western sea. PLATO describes it
as a
UTOPIA
destroyed by an earthquake. Questions as to its existence have provoked
speculation over the centuries. One theory holds that it was a part of
the Aegean island of THERA that sank c.1500 B.C.
Atlantis
Atlantis (àt-làn´tîs)
noun
Mythology.
A legendary island in the Atlantic
Ocean west of Gibraltar, said by Plato to have sunk beneath the sea during an
earthquake.
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Atlantis, originally mentioned by Plato, was supposedly
an ancient culture and island that he said was destroyed by a natural disaster
(probably an earthquake) about 9,000 years before Plato's own
time.
Accounts
Plato's Timaeus and Critias are the only
written mentions of Atlantis, in which he gives some
information
on the size and location of the Atlantis island. Atlantis might be a work of
pure fiction, however, possibly
intended
to illustrate Plato's philosophy on the ideal government. Plato's account purports
to be based on a visit to
Egypt
by the Athenian lawgiver Solon. Sonchis, priest of Thebes, translated it into
Greek for Solon.
Aristotle wrote of a large island in the Atlantic that
the Carthaginians knew as Antilia. It is interesting that this name makes sense
in Portuguese: ante-ilha meaning before/against-island. Proclus, the commentator
of "Timaeus" mentions that Marcellus, relying on ancient historians,
stated in his Aethiopiaka that in the Outer Ocean (the Atlantic) there were
seven small islands dedicated to Persephone, and three large ones; one of these,
comprising 1,000 stadia in length, was dedicated to Poseidon. Proclus tells
us that Crantor reported that he, too, had seen the columns on which the story
of Atlantis was preserved as reported by Plato: the Sais priest showed him its
history in hieroglyph characters. Some other writers called it Poseidonis after
Poseidon. Plutarch mentions Saturnia or Ogygia about five days' sail to the
west of Britain. He added that westwards from that island, there were the three
islands of Cronus, to where proud and warlike men used to come from the continent
beyond the islands, in order to offer sacrifice to the
gods
of the ocean.
An important Greek festival of Pallas Athene, the Panathenaea was dated from the days of king Theseus. It consisted of a solemn procession to the Acropolis in which a peplos was carried to the goddess, for she had once saved the city, gaining victory over the nation of Poseidon, that is, the Atlanteans. As Lewis Spence comments, this cult was in existence already 125 years before Plato, which means that the story could not be invented by him. The historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that "the intelligentsia of Alexandria considered the destruction of Atlantis an historical fact, described a class of earthquakes that suddenly, by a violent motion, opened up huge mouths and so swallowed up portions of the earth, as once in the Atlantic Ocean a large island was swallowed up. Diodorus Siculus recorded that the Atlanteans did not know the fruits of Ceres. In fact, cereals were unknown to American Indians. Pausanias called these island "Satyrides," referring to the Atlantes and those who profess to know the measurements of the earth . He states that far west of the Ocean there lies a group of islands whose inhabitants are red-skinned and whose hair is like that of the horse. (Christopher Columbus described the Indians similarly.)
A fragmentary work of Theophrastus of Lesbos tells about
the colonies of Atlantis in the sea. Hesiod wrote that the garden of the Hesperides
was on an island in the sea where the
sun
sets. Pliny the Elder recorded that this land was 12,000 km distant from Cadiz,
and Uba, a Numidian king intended to establish a stock farm of purple Murex
there. Diodorus declares that the ancient
Phoenicians
and Etruscans knew America, the enormous island outside the Pillars of Heracles.
He describes it as the climate is very mild, fruits and vegetables grow ripe
throughout the year. There are huge mountains covered with large forests, and
wide, irrigable plains with navigable rivers. Scylax of Caryanda gives similar
account.
Marcellus claims that the survivors of the sinking Atlantis
migrated to Western Europe. Timagenes tells almost the same, citing the
Druids
of Gaul as his sources. He tries to classify the Gallic tribes according to
their origins, and tells about one of them that they were colonists who came
there from a remote island. Theopompus of Chios, a Greek historian called this
land beyond the ocean as "Meropis". The dialogue between King Midas
and the wise Silenus mentions the Meropids, the first men with huge cities of
gold and silver. Silenus knows that besides the well-known portions of the world
there is another, unknown, of incredible immensity, where immeasurably vast
blooming meadows and pastures feed herds of various, huge and mighty beasts
(perhaps buffaloes?). Claudius Aelianus cites Theopompus, knowing of the existence
of the huge island out in the Atlantic as a continuing tradition among the Phoenicians
or Carthaginians of Cadiz. Perhaps the Byzantine friar Cosmas Indicopleustes
understood Plato better than the ancient and modern "Aristotelians",
says Merezhkovsky. In his Topographica Christiana he included a chart of the
terrestrial globe: it showed an inner sphere, a compact mainland surrounded
by sea, having no visible support and being suspended, as it were, in the air;
and this was surrounded by an outer sphere, with the inscription, "The
earth beyond the Ocean, where men lived before the Flood."
Recent esoteric writers such as Helena Blavatsky,
Edgar
Cayce, and Jane Roberts/Seth proposed that Atlantis was an ancient, now-submerged,
highly-
evolved
civilization. The
metaphysical
significance being that it was a land from which many of us continue to reincarnate,
with Cayce adding that the Atlanteans also had ships and aircraft powered by
a mysterious form of energy
crystal.
Interest
With rare exceptions, such as
Francis
Bacon's book The New Atlantis, interest in Atlantis then languished for
2,200 years until the 1882 publication of Atlantis: the Antediluvian World by
Minnesota politician and sometime crankish writer Ignatius Donnelly. Donnelly
took Plato's account of Atlantis seriously and attempted to establish that all
known ancient civilizations were descended from its high-neolithic culture.
Location Hypotheses
The work Toward the
Light
has some description of Atlantis, including its exact geographical location.
Geology has demonstrated that no continent such as Atlantis
has existed in the mid-Atlantic, so later
enthusiasts
have placed it in a bewildering variety of places, ranging from Sri Lanka,
Peru,
and Scandinavia, to the supposed center of the hollow Earth.
This opinion of the geologists refers to the impossibility
of a sunken continent and not to a sunken island in the Atlantic Ocean. That
island must have been much smaller than
Australia,
so one cannot call it a continent. Plato has never claimed that a whole continent
has disappeared, he only referred to an island, in front of another continent.
Not all geologists deny the possibility of a sunken island
in Central America. After the Charles Berlitz book The Mystery of Atlantis,
a Canadian Hungarian geologist-topographer's book was published, entitled Atlantis:
The Seven Seals. The author, Z.A. Simon, called the
attention
to these controversies. He included some supporting conclusions of Dr. J. Manson
Valentine, M. Dmitri Ribikoff, E. Umland and C. Umland, Robert B. Stacy-Judd,
Dr. David Zink, John P. Cohane, Peter Tompkins, Pino Turolla, Captain Alexander,
Francis Hitching, James Bailey, Dr. C.J. Cazeau, Dr. S.D. Scott, Brad Steiger
and William R. Fix.
The June 1981 edition of Marine Geology shows some radiocarbon
dates on mangrove peat, based on the estimate of Broecker and Kulp, listing
dates between 5590 and 3680 BCE, with connection of the gradual sinking of the
Florida-Bimini region. Most recently the rate of the sea level's rise has slowed
to 4.5 inches per century. Prior to that time it was one foot per century. Near
Andros Island, underwater explorer Jacques Cousteau found a huge submerged cave
165 feet beneath the surface. There are stalactites and stalagmites in it, that
can be formed in the open air only. Marine sediments on the walls of the grotto
enabled scientists to estimate its submersion around or after 10,000 BCE. The
submarine topography of the Bahamian region shown in the huge Russian Atlas
Mira by detailed isobaths, catches the attention of a topographer. The sea floor
on the northern side of Cuba, Haiti and Puerto Rico indicates a definite system
of submerged valleys of ancient rivers, combined with sunken mountain ranges.
The "
Tongue
of the Ocean" at Andros Island is undoubtedly an underwater ravine caused
by terrible tectonic forces, surrounded by almost vertical walls, as a "memento"
of the catastrophe. The Bahamas is the only region of the world where Atlantis
can be located, if it ever existed.
Simon offers an "accurate"
map
of Plato's rectangular island with its given
dimensions
as 2,000 by 3,000 stadia, overlaying its outline on the suspected ancient irregular
shoreline of that traditional island in the Bahamas region. (An Attic stadium
corresponds to 177.6 meters.)
Among those who believe in an historical Atlantis, the leading theory holds that Plato's story of the destruction of Atlantis was inspired by massive volcanic eruptions on the Mediterranean island of Santorini during Minoan times.
Recently, a theory proposed by J.M. Allen has focused
attention on the Altiplano in Bolivia. Allen took Plato's physical description
of the location of Atlantis and compared it to physical features found in the
Altiplano, and he found that they matched Plato's description on almost all
counts, but for a factor of 2. Allen reasons that this error makes sense because
pre-Columbian South Americans counted in base 20. Another piece of evidence
that Allen cites is Plato's mention of a gold/copper alloy called orichalcum
that is only found in the Andes. Allen also claims that the very name of the
place, Atlantis, comes from two Native American words, atl meaning "water",
and antis meaning "copper". Supporters of the South American Atlantis
also cite scientists finding evidence of cocaine derived chemicals in
Egyptian
mummies. Cocaine, coming only from the coca plant found exclusively in South
America, is explained as evidence that there was pre-Columbian cross-Atlantic
contact that could have led to the tale of a disaster reaching the ears of Plato
via Egypt. This theory is currently being investigated by Allen and others.
Another recent theory is based on a recreation of the geography of the Mediterranean at the time of Atlantis' supposed existence. Plato states that Atlantis was located beyond the Pillars of Hercules, the name given to the Strait of Gibraltar linking the Mediterranean to the Atlantic Ocean. 11,000 years ago the sea level in the area was some 130 metres lower, exposing a number of islands in the strait. One of these, Spartel, could have been Atlantis, though there are a number of inconsistencies with Plato's account.
A different theory by Rainer W. Kühne suggests that the Atlanteans were the Sea Peoples who attacked the Eastern Mediterranean countries around 1200 BC. The city and state of Atlantis were located in Andalucia, 50 kilometers southwest of Seville. Recent satellite photos show two rectangular structures which may be interpreted as the "temple of Poseidon" and "the temple of Cleito and Poseidon".
The archeologist Eberhard Zangger has proposed in 2001 (earlier in German) the theory that Atlantis was in fact the city state of Troy, based on the central position of Troy as one of the richest if not the richest Greek speaking city state of the period and on numerous geological and urban features. He both agrees and disagrees with Rainer W. Kühne: He believes too that the Trojans-Atlanteans were the sea peoples, but only a minor part of them. He proposes that all Greek speaking city states of the Aegean civilization or Mycenae constituted the sea peoples and that they destroyed each other's economies in a series of semi-fratricidal wars lasting several decades.
Yet another theory that fits in with geography of 11,000
years ago sites Atlantis in the
Antarctic
archipelago - technically in the South Atlantic Ocean - where it would have
been drowned by the rise in sea level after the last ice age. How cold the local
climate would have been is a matter for speculation. Troy, Minoan Crete (or
possibly Santorini) and other ancient port cities are asserted to be colonies.
In Films
Atlantis has also been the subject of such films as the
1961 Atlantis, the Lost Continent,
Disney's
2001
animated
feature Atlantis: The Lost
Empire,
Gainax's Anime series Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, The French film Atlantis
- Le creature del mare, and many others. A complete listing of the appearances
of Atlantis in modern media would be too extensive to include here. Jules Verne's
classic 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea also included a visit to Atlantis aboard
Nemo's submarine Nautilus.
In the original Superman universe, both Aquaman and Lori Lemaris were said to have come from a sunken Atlantis, in Lori Lemaris's case, her people surviving by becoming mermaids and mermen. In the Marvel Universe, the people live in a similar manner, as blue skinned water breathers with Prince Namor The Submariner as their ruler.
Recent underwater discoveries off the west coast of Cuba
have led some to speculate on an Atlantean connection. However, even before
these discoveries were announced, author Andrew Collins had explored the Cuba
connection in a book titled "Gateway to Atlantis." Collins supports
his hypothesis with a great deal of indirect but compelling historical and geographical
evidence. He finally suggests present-day Isle of
Youth
and the shallow sea bottom that surrounds it as a possible location for Atlantis.
In the book Celestial Matters, the Hellenistic civilization calls Amerindians "Atlanteans".
first mention of Atlantis in Usenet:
From: ucbvax!space (ucbvax!space)
Subject: SPACE Digest V2
#4
Newsgroups: fa.space
Date: 1981-10-05 01:22:09 PST
>From OTA@SU-AI Sun Oct 4 04:12:40 1981
SPACE Digest Volume 2 : Issue 4
Date: 3 Oct 1981 12:28:49-EDT
From: cjh at CCA-UNIX (Chip
Hitchcock)
o: jef at lbl-unix
Subject: extinction?!
Cc: space at mit-mc
Calculations concerning the
formation of an astrobleme are irrelevant to questions of nuclear destruction,
since it has long been a truism that 10 1-megaton bombs will produce far
more widespread "useful" destruction than 1 10-megaton bomb (the bigger
a bomb is, the more of its energy is spent just burning a big hole in the
ground). Further, most material I've seen about astroblemes suggests that
their formation was not accompanied by the release of vast amounts of high-flying
radioactives. With regard to this, isn't there anyone out there with some
hard numbers about the probability (given a major nuclear war) of an ON
THE BEACH
scenario?
It is a common idea in
SF
(or was in the 50's and 60's) that we are on the brink of nuclear destruction
precisely because we developed so much faster than the average. The problem
is that this presupposes something unique in our genetic or environmental
makeup; without something to compare against, this is a useless supposition.
Fredric Brown, by contrast, suggested that there is only a small window
during which a civilization can survive before collapsing into decadence,
and that we are
immortal
precisely because of the regenerating effect of a total nuclear and [supernuclear]
war (this being the 7th in a line of civilizations that includes Mu and
Atlantis); this is horrifying but thoroughly improbable. Figures in a recent
ASIMOV'S
indicate that even a "
Bussard
ramjet" would make, at most, about .17 c (?), but this ups the time
to colonize the galaxy to a million years or more at the hazard of substantial
radiation exposure; how much common ground and goal would remain after
this period? Finally, there is the chance that this prospect would daunt
any race and that a "
hyperdrive"
just can't be made on anything greater than a subatomic scale, which would
make a project like
SETI
all the more important (cf Spinrad's recent SONGS FROM THE STARS---incredibly
obnoxious except for that one good idea).